PEGGY NOONAN'S ACID TRIP

9/11, Bin Laden, Rove

A Time for Grace
America needs unity in dealing with Iraq. That means the president must lead.

Friday, August 31, 2007 12:01 a.m.

What will be needed this autumn is a new bipartisan forbearance, a kind of patriotic grace. This is a great deal to hope for. The president should ask for it, and show it. Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, will report to Congress on Sept. 11. From the latest metrics, it’s clear the surge has gained some ground. It is generally supposed that Gen. Petraeus will paint a picture of recent decreases in violent incidents and increases in safety. In another world, that might be decisive: It’s working, hang on.

At the same time, it’s clear that what we call Iraq does not wholly share U.S. objectives. We speak of it as a unitary country, but the Kurds are understandably thinking about Kurdistan, the Sunnis see an Iraq they once controlled but that no longer exists, and the Shia–who knows? An Iraq they theocratically and governmentally control, an Iraq given over to Iran? This division is reflected in what we call Iraq’s government in Baghdad. Seen in this way, the non-latest-metrics way, the situation is bleak.

Capitol Hill doesn’t want to talk about it, let alone vote on it. Lawmakers not only can’t figure a good way out, they can’t figure a good way through.

But we’re going to have to achieve some rough consensus, because we’re a great nation in an urgent endeavor. The process will begin with Gen. Petraeus’s statement.

Particular atmospherics, and personal dynamics, are the backdrop to the debate. People are imperfect, and people in politics tend to be worse: “Politics is not an ennobling profession,” as Bill Buckley once said. You’d better be pretty good going in, because it’s not going to make you better. Politicians are individuals with a thirst for power, honors, and fame. When you think about that you want to say, “Oh dear.” But of course “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”

All sides in the Iraq debate need to step up, in a new way, to the characterological plate. From the pro-war forces, the surge supporters and those who supported the Iraq invasion from the beginning, what is needed is a new modesty of approach, a willingness to admit it hasn’t quite gone according to plan. A moral humility. Not meekness–great powers aren’t helped by meekness–but maturity, a shown respect for the convictions of others.

What we often see instead, lately, is the last refuge of the adolescent: defiance. An attitude of Oh yeah? We’re Lincoln, you’re McClellan. We care about the troops and you don’t. We care about the good Iraqis who cast their lot with us. You’d just as soon they hang from the skids of the last helicopter off the embassy roof. They have been called thuggish. Is this wholly unfair?

The antiwar forces, the surge opponents, the “I was against it from the beginning” people are, some of them, indulging in grim, and mindless, triumphalism. They show a smirk of pleasure at bad news that has been brought by the other team. Some have a terrible quaking fear that something good might happen in Iraq, that the situation might be redeemed. Their great interest is that Bushism be laid low and the president humiliated. They make lists of those who supported Iraq and who must be read out of polite society. Might these attitudes be called thuggish also?

Do you ever get the feeling that at this point Washington is run by two rival gangs that have a great deal in common with each other, including an essential lack of interest in the well-being of the turf on which they fight?

Not only hearts and minds are invested in a particular stand. Careers are, too. Candidates are invested in a position they took; people are dug in, caught. Every member of Congress is constrained by campaign promises: “We’ll fight” or “We’ll leave.” The same for every opinion spouter–every pundit, columnist, talk show host, editorialist–all of whom have a base, all of whom pay a price for deviating from the party line, whatever the party, and whatever the line. All this freezes things. It makes immobile what should be fluid. It keeps people from thinking. What is needed is simple maturity, a vow to look to–to care about–America’s interests in the long term, a commitment to look at the facts as they are and try to come to conclusions. This may require in some cases a certain throwing off of preconceptions, previous statements and former stands. It would certainly require the mature ability to come to agreement with those you otherwise hate, and the guts to summon the help of, and admit you need the help of, the other side.

Without this, we remain divided, and our division does nothing to help Iraq, or ourselves.

It would be good to see the president calming the waters. Instead he ups the ante. Tuesday, speaking to the American Legion, he heightened his language. Withdrawing U.S. forces will leave the Middle East overrun by “forces of radicalism and extremism”; the region would be “dramatically transformed” in a way that could “imperil” both “the civilized world” and American security.

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Forgive me, but Americans who oppose the war do not here understand the president to be saying: Precipitous withdrawal will create a vacuum that will be filled by killing that will tip the world to darkness. That’s not what they hear. I think they understand him to be saying, I got you into this, I reaped the early rewards, I rubbed your noses in it, and now you have to save the situation.

His foes feel a tight-jawed bitterness. They believe it was his job not to put America in a position in which its security is imperiled; they resent his invitation to share responsibility for outcomes of decisions they opposed. And they resent it especially because he grants them nothing–no previous wisdom, no good intent–beyond a few stray words here and there.

And here’s the problem. The president’s warnings are realistic. He’s right. At the end of the day we can’t just up and leave Iraq. That would only make it worse. And it is not in the interests of America or the world that it be allowed to get worse.

Would it help if the president were graceful, humble, and asked for help? Why, yes. Would it help if he credited those who opposed him with not only good motives but actual wisdom? Yes. And if he tried it, it would make news. It would really, as his press aides say, break through the clutter. I don’t see how the president’s supporters can summon grace from others when they so rarely show it themselves. And I don’t see how anyone can think grace and generosity of spirit wouldn’t help. They would. They always do in big debates. And they would provide the kind of backdrop Gen. Petraeus deserves, the kind in which his words can be heard.

Ms. Noonan is a contributing editor of The Wall Street Journal and author of “John Paul the Great: Remembering a Spiritual Father” (Penguin, 2005), which you can order from the OpinionJournal bookstore. Her column appears Fridays on OpinionJournal.com.

VICE PRESIDENT'S TOP MAN ORDERED TO JAIL

9/11, Bin Laden

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THE MADNESS OF FRANK LUNTZ ON REAL TIME W/ BILL MAHER

9/11, Bin Laden

BILL MAHER REAL TIME MAY 11TH 2007
In which Bill immediately asks Frank Luntz what the sudden use of the prefix “DR.” is all about. Dr. Luntz then tells Arianna Huffington that she is angry, Bill tells comedian Paula Poundstone that he is still trying to get over the clown suit that she is wearing and Luntz convinces everyone that he is a stark raving lunatic.

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SEAN PENN TELLS BILL MAHER THAT BUSHCHENEY SHOULD BE IN JAIL

9/11, Bin Laden

SEAN PENN FLATLY STATES: “BUSH SHOULD BE IN JAIL”
tullycast1.jpg I posted the best of the discussion by Rep. Harold Ford Jr., Garry Shandling and Sean Penn from Real Time With Bill Maher.
The idea of a “War On Terrorism”, WMD’s, the vote by Congress to give authorization to the President to use force against Iraq and the millions of young Muslim men who hate America are all discussed.

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BILL MAHER REAL TIME FRIDAY APRIL 27

9/11, Bin Laden, Rove

tullycast1.jpg Dennis Kucinich acts presidential, the Republican on the panel admits to not REALLY knowing how it’s going in Iraq, and Bill defends Alec Baldwin’s right to yell at his daughter. The model for “A Few Good Men”, former US Attorney David Iglesias, has a live sitdown with Bill and is promptly and rightly called a hero by Maher. It seemed like Mr. Iglesias was a little emotional and it was a very good moment. Richard Belzer was great, not interrupting with cute jokes right in the middle of great discussions like Dana Carvey did a few weeks back. The Baghdad bureau chief for NPR, Jamie Tarabay, told of how the Green Zone is a myth in that it’s more dangerous than the (red zone) and so she and her staff don’t stay there.

Republican Lisa Schiffren, the former speech-writer for Newt Gingrich among other things, tried to talking point her way out of a discussion involving Iraqi oil revenue and the money supposedly going towards reconstruction of the infrastructure…. “Well maybe things haven’t gone on line as fast…well I haven’t actually been there so I can’t speak for how things are” after the Baghdad bureau chief flatly says: “that’s just not true”

It’s sad how completely and utterly full of SHITE “these” people are.

JT
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NEW RULES

DENNIS KUCINICH

REAL TIME PART FOUR

REAL TIME PART THREE

REAL TIME PART TWO

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BILL MAHER HAS SOME NEW RULES FOR FRIDAY 4/27 PART FIVE

9/11, Bin Laden

tullycast1.jpgBILL MAHER’S REAL TIME (PART FIVE)

Mustard, Planets, Yeltsin…New Rules For April 27th

RIGGING:: WEB 2.0 STYLE

9/11, Bin Laden, MSNBC

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In light of the news-out last week, I put up some fairly good video including Bill Clinton on Iraq, Obama and his wife; Keith Olbermann’s Special Comment about Rudy Giuliani saying that only Republicans will keep America safe; Al Franken on everything; David Shuster on Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman and a fact-filled segment about Giuliani’s horrible record:

Bill Clinton On the Dems

Franken On Everything

Olbermann’s Special Comment

Giuliani’s Abysmal Record

Jessica Lynch/Pat Tillman

HARDBALL'S DAVID SHUSTER ON IRAQ/JESSICA LYNCH/PAT TILLMAN

9/11, MSNBC

Pat Tillman’s brother, Jessica Lynch and a surgeon from the Army hospital in Germany testified before Congress Tuesday about the assorted lies that the administration has been telling it’s citizens involving the war in Iraq. President Bush once again referred to 9/11 and warned that the Democrats could be emboldening the enemy by seeking a re-deployment strategy.

THE MADNESS OF TOM FRIEDMAN

Stories

Tom “Iraqis are going to start paying retail” Friedman with Wolf “Sheep” Blitzer